Betta Macrostoma: Caring For & Breeding The Dream Betta

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betta macrostoma

Betta macrostomas are the dream fish for nearly every betta enthusiast, but not every keeper should have them. On top of being threatened by heavy environmental and local strain, they’re also difficult to keep and find, making them a massive financial investment as well.

Because these guys are so susceptible to becoming endangered, the Sultan of Brunei has banned the species from export. In fact, there was a point from the 30s until the mid-90s where we thought they were completely extinct in the wild. Since their rediscovery, hobbyists have rushed to collect the once-thought-extinct fish, putting wild populations in more danger.

Most of the wild-caught fish are likely to originate from Sarawak, where the species is not protected by law. However, there is some speculation that fish are being smuggled illegally (poached, really) from Brunei to be sold in Sarawak and shipped to consumers. Because of that, I suggest buying only captive-bred species to protect the wild population, though captive-bred can be hard to find.

If you like the way they look, easier to care for, easier to find, and less expensive species would be Betta albimarginata or, easier still, Betta channoides. All three are paternal mouthbrooders, but B. albimarginata and B. channoides are both endangered, so they would still make a super rewarding breeding project.

Macrostoma
Albimarginata
Channoides

If you have your heart set on keeping the holy grail of bettas, B. macrostoma, I’ll tell you everything you need to know about keeping, caring for, and breeding these rewarding beauties from Brunei.

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FAQ

Betta macrostoma Classification

IUCN Status: Vulnerable (Threatened) – Last assessed 12/28/2018

Class: Actinopterygii are ray-finned fishes, which is a subcategory of boney fishes. These fish are characterized by the bony structures that support their webbed fins. This group makes up nearly half of all living vertebrates.

Order: Anabantiformes are fish characterized by teeth on the parasphenoi (a bone found in the cranium of some ray-finned fishes.) Snakeheads and anabantoids (a sub-order of Anabantiformes) both have a labyrinth organ; this enables them to breathe atmospheric oxygen.

Family: Osphronemidae, commonly referred to as simply “gouramis.”

Genus:  Betta contains 73 recognized species under this genus, only one of which is referred to by the common name “betta”, which is B. splendens.

Species: Betta macrostoma (part of the unimaculata complex)

What Does Betta macrostoma Mean?

Betta comes from ikan betah, the Malay word for many species of the betta genus.

Macrostoma, on the other hand, comes from two Latin words macro- meaning large, and stoma- meaning mouth.

Betta macrostoma mouth

I’m sure macs being named “big mouth” comes as a surprise to very few who have owned them.

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Distribution & Natural Habitat

Macs have been collected from still, shady pools at the top of rainforest waterfalls in both Brunei and Sarawak. The water is relatively fast-flowing (hence the tops of waterfalls,) with a slight brown hue from some sparse leaf litter. The substrate is usually varying sizes of river stones.

In a few other collection spots, the water is completely still. In these areas, usually in spots off the main river or tributaries, there was only one pair or several juveniles observed per location.

It can be found alongside Rasbora tubbi in some locations but is almost always found alongside a red species of Macrobrachium (sp.) shrimp, leading some experts to suggest it could be an integral part of their diet in the wild.

betta macrostoma habitat (red shrimp)

The loss of coloration and vigor of tank bred individuals seems to support this, perhaps lacking carotenoids or other essentials from the food they’re being fed. All that seems to come up is red Macrobrachium shrimp of Sarawak. I would assume the adults would be too large, but the babies would perhaps be the right size to prey on.

Aquarium Care

Difficulty: Experienced
Size: 3.9″ (10 cm)
Lifespan: 8 – 10 years
Tank Size: 20+ gallons (80+ liters)
Diet: Omnivore
Temperature: 68 – 77 F (20 – 25 C)

pH6.0 – 7.0 (for wilds and F1s, may be as low as 4.0)
Hardness: 0 – 5 dKH
Temperament: Peaceful once paired
Breeding: Challenging, but doable
Swimming: Everywhere
Availability: Rare and expensive

Betta macrostomas are often considered difficult to keep – and even more difficult to breed. But, the reality is, they’re not difficult to keep if you’re able to keep their parameters stable. The real challenge with this isn’t your natural water parameters, it usually comes down to how well you cycled the tank and consistent water change practices.

As far as breeding goes, getting males to “hold to term” can be challenging. Some males are more spookable than others and there aren’t a whole lot of reliable tricks to keep a male from swallowing the eggs or spitting out his fry early.

Tank Specs

You’re going to want a 20 long with a tight-fitting lid since they’re amazing jumpers. Bear in mind that if you’re planning on pairing them up, you’ll likely want something like a 40 gallon for quarantine or pairing as well as several 20 longs for the resulting pairs. Or – better yet – more 40-gallons for breeding so the fry can stay with their parents longer, resulting in less stress for everyone.

You’ll also want either a ton of 40s or a few 75s for raising the fry. 90s or 120s would be better, but they are both considerably more expensive and more difficult to find. (Particularly if you grab Petco’s $1/gallon sale!)

You’ll also want a heater, preferably with an alarm system. Even though macrostomas run cold, you’ll want a heater to keep things stable in their tank. An alarm system with an external control will provide you with even more stability (and peace of mind.)

betta macrostoma care

I have all the best heaters in a complete article, but I’ve also plopped the winning heater and alarm system below if you don’t know where to start. I would say go on the side of 3 – 4 WPG for the heater just to make it super difficult to overheat their tank.

Stocking

They can be kept in a group, but do best in pairs for breeding. Both males and females will spar and squabble until a hierarchy is established and they’re paired off. Plus, you’re unlikely to find fry in a group situation. For the sake of safety (though few injuries usually result) it’s best to keep them in pairs once they’ve chosen their mate.

Betta macrostoma group

Your best bet is to purchase a group of juveniles and raise them together. If you can’t do that, you can purchase two trios or just one trip and hope for the best. Even when purchasing a group of juveniles, there’s no guarantee you’ll get a male. Only an estimated 10 – 15% of fry will be males.

Decor

If you plan on breeding macrostomas, you’ll want to keep it bare bottom for ease of maintenance. The addition of some leaf litter, caves, and plants that don’t need to be planted would also be appreciated.

Betta macrostoma breeding tank
Female (left), male (center), and fry

Adding a dark background or painting three walls of the tank black will help them feel more secure as well. You may want to add some driftwood, but be aware of your skills with a net. Netting fry out of a tank with wood in it can be a chore.

Tannin Aquatics has some good leaf litter packs if you want some cool botanicals. Additionally, you can use PVC for caves, large terracotta pots with holes in them, or buy some open-ended premade caves.

Best Plants For Betta macrostoma

When looking for plants, you’re going to want to find plants that do well at lower temperatures, in acidic conditions, with lower lighting, and that don’t need to be planted in substrate if you plan on running a bare bottom (which I advise.) There are a few I can think of that would probably do well in those conditions.

If you can find fast-growing plants like guppy grass, hornwort, or water sprite, those would help keep your water cleaner as a bonus.

Sweet Potato

Sweet potato aquarium

It’s hard to describe just how magnificent these root structures look once they get going, but you really can’t ask for a better or cheaper aquarium plant for keeping the water clean. Especially since you can pick it up on your next grocery shopping trip.

Difficulty: Easy
Growth: Moderate
Temperature: 59 – 86F (15 – 30C)

pH: 5.0 – 8.0
Hardness: 3 – 12 dKH
Placement: Floating or attached

Salvinia

Salvinia

Salvinia is a fast-growing plant good for keeping ammonia, nitrates, and nitrites under control. It’s great for providing shelter for scared fish and fry, keeping the lighting intensity down. and making skittish fish feel more secure.

Difficulty: Easy
Growth: Fast
Temperature:  64 – 86F (18 – 30C)

pH: 5.0 – 8.0
Hardness:  2 – 25 dKH
Placement: Floating

Water Wisteria

Water wisteria is a fast-growing plant good for keeping ammonia, nitrates, and nitrites under control. It’s great for providing shelter for scared fish and fry, keeping cyanobacteria (aka blue-green algae) at bay, and has anti-microbial properties.

Difficulty: Bulletproof
Growth: Slow
Temperature:  64 – 86F (18 – 30C)

pH: 5.0 – 8.0
Hardness:  2 – 25 dKH
Placement: Anywhere, basically

Java Fern

Java Fern

Java fern is a nearly indestructible low light plant that can put up with tons of abuse. It doesn’t need Co2, fertilizers, or fancy soils. There are tons of lush, beautiful, jungle-like aquascapes you can create with it too!

Difficulty: Bulletproof
Growth: Slow
Temperature:  64 – 86F (18 – 30C)

pH: 5.0 – 8.0
Hardness:  2 – 25 dKH
Placement: Anywhere, basically

Java Moss

Java moss

Java moss is an almost bulletproof plant that requires almost no care. It doesn’t grow nearly as slowly as it’s java fern cousin, and can create lush moss beds that blow and billow in the current. They’re a great option for grazers, fry, or those of you with the blackest of thumbs.

Difficulty: Easy
Growth: Moderate
Temperature: 59 – 86F (15 – 30C)

pH: 5.0 – 8.0
Hardness: 3 – 12 dKH
Placement: Floating or attached

Guppy Grass

guppy grass

Guppy grass is a great floating plant that adds depth, structure, and cover to any tank. It’s a super easy plant to grow and takes up tons of ammonia, nitrates, and nitrites, but – beware – it grows fast and can easily overrun your tank. Overall, it’s an amazing plant to have if water quality is your top concern.

Difficulty: Easy
Growth: Rapid
Temperature: 50 – 86F (10 – 30C)

pH: 6.0 – 7.0
Hardness: 2 – 25 dKH
Placement: Floating, planted, weighted

Lighting & Filtration

You’ll want to shade the tank without the addition of a ton of tannins. You can purchase smoked glass or a light with a dimmer to achieve this effect. I, personally, like the 24/7 lights for skittish fish because they won’t spook when they lights turn off or go out because it’s gradual.

Additionally, it’s worth remembering these guys come from areas of moderate flow with lower tannin levels. You’ll want something like an underrated HOB (2 – 3 GPH) with a sponge prefilter or a sponge filter with a water polisher (for circulation and tannin removal.) I suggest the latter because you can fine-tune the level of flow much easier, but a HOB with a prefilter would also fit the bill if that sounds more like your style.

If you can, my personal preference would be an HMF with a water polisher and spray bar. Everything could be hidden behind the filter, including the heater, for added protection. If you got black you’d hardly notice it was there. In either case, I don’t suggest buying a water polisher (unless you really want to,) most because they’re easier to make than they are to find.

As for the filters, I have some of my favorites below.

Water Care

You’ll want to change 25% of your water every week, if not more. Smaller daily water changes of 10% would be better, but if you can’t find the time every day, weekly, consistent water changes would be best. If your water is hard, you’ll likely need an RO unit to get your water to the right dKH by cutting it with your tap.

Betta macrostoma care

In addition to that, you’re going to want to stock up on some basic meds and water care necessities. Based on the most common illnesses macrostomas get, I included all the meds you should (reasonably) need below.

Feeding Betta macrostoma

Betta macrostomas won’t usually take dried foods (even if they’re captive bred.) But they’ll accept live foods and frozen foods. Daphnia, white worms, scuds, bloodworms, and mosquito larvae are all good choices for live food. They also appreciate eating live shrimp if you can find a clean culture source. For frozen food, you can also grab brine shrimp, mysis shrimp, beef heart, krill, and copepods mixes.

feeding macrostoma

If you can get them to eat freeze-dried foods, you can add tubifex and blackworms to the mix as well. Though, on a whole, I would stick with frozen and live if you can. I have a complete shopping list below for you if you don’t know where to find some of these things (though I couldn’t include frozen, you’ll likely need to go to a store for those.)

Betta macrostoma Diseases

Macrostomas don’t usually have a ton of illnesses. When they die, it’s usually from keeper error. However, the few issues that they do usually have are included below (and you can find corresponding medications in the water care section above.)

The big concerns are usually fungal. Because they live in such acidic environments, they don’t usually have to deal with fungus in the water. If their pH is brought up, the fungus has a chance to survive and the fish have little to no defense mechanisms for dealing with it so it can get out of control quickly.

Fungal Infection

fungal infection

Fungal infections are a tricky bunch – not only do they have a huge family that presents a wide variety of species and symptoms – but some bacterial infections look strikingly similar to a fungus. 

If you’re not sure if you’re dealing with a fungus or a bacterial infection, I find it helpful to treat with Ich X and Erythromycin (provided it’s 100% erythromycin) at the same time to be sure I’m treating for both.

Symptoms:

  • Cottony growths on body, fins, eyes, and/or gills

Causes:

  • Prior untreated injury
  • Stress
  • Water quality-related issues
  • Prior untreated infection (bacterial, parasitic, etc.)

Columnaris (Cotton Mouth Disease)

columnaris disease

Occasionally called false neon tetra disease or cottonmouth, this is caused by a gram-negative bacterium. it can also, quite understandable, be confused with fungal infections. 

Symptoms:

  • Discolored scales
  • Scales appear to be popping off (not “pineconing”)
  • Grey spots
  • Lesions on the back
  • Legions around the mouth
  • May result in fuzzy patches due to secondary infections

Causes:

  •  Flavbacterium columnare (bacteria)

Fin Rot & Tail Rot

fin and tail rot

Fin rot and tail rot are the same thing and are caused by gram-negative bacteria that eat away at your fish’s fins, leaving them ragged and choppy looking. Depending on the severity, this bacteria could open the door for fungal infections or eventually turn into body rot (where the bacteria starts eating the body of the fish.)

Symptoms:

  • Fins look like they’ve been chomped on
  • Fins are slowly shrinking
  • Faded coloration on the fins (not to be confused with new growth)

Causes:

  • Poor water quality
  • Stress
  • Prior untreated injury in combination with poor water quality

Skin & Gill Flukes

skin and gill fluke

Skin and gill flukes are worm-like parasites that embed into your fish. Since they’re so small, they’re almost invisible to the naked eye and incredibly difficult to diagnose. 

Before you freak out, flukes are present in almost every tank and are harmless under normal conditions.

Symptoms:

  • Excess mucus on skin
  • Redness in gills and on skin
  • Itchiness
  • Scratching
  • Labored breathing (if in gills)

Causes:

  • Generally, stress
  • Previous illness
  • Overcrowding
  • Wrong water parameters

Costia

costia disease

Although it’s more common in cold-water fish, any fish can get it so long as the temperature range is low enough. It’s a parasite that, unlike ich, is difficult to detect in the beginning stages. Once in it’s advanced stages (which make takes months to present themselves) you’ll likely be able to detect it but, at this point, you have to respond quickly as it’s already been taking a toll for quite some time.

Symptoms:

  • Grey or white patches on the skin
  • Itchiness
  • Scratching

Causes:

  • Ichthyobodo (protozoan parasite.)

Macrostoma Tank Mates

I do not suggest this. If you want to keep macrostomas, I highly suggest you try to breed them. As long as there aren’t enough captive-bred macrostomas on the market, people will feel the need to buy them from the wild. If people are willing to buy from the wild, people will be willing to do illegal things to take from the wild. Since they’re so rare to find (and they’re threatened,) I strongly advise anyone who wants to keep macs to breed them. The best chances of breeding success will be with no other tankmates.

Hang on while I quickly step down from my horse.

But, if you’re going to make the choice to put them in a tank with other fish, I’ll at least help you make a decent choice. Macs are easily intimidated by large, boisterous fish and can be easily outcompeted for food. Most of the time, macrostomas don’t seem interested in eating non-shrimp tankmates, so you can keep them with some pretty small fish. But I would still be careful and watch for any potential predation.

So, with that in mind, you’re going to want to go for small fish with small mouths that are unable to eat any potential fry but aren’t easily intimidated by much larger fish, aren’t aggressive, can deal with soft water and lower temps but don’t need a ton of tannins or plant cover, and don’t mind some water movement.

This, if you didn’t already guess, is a pretty (and specific) big ask and I make no guarantees any of these will work because your tank setup may be unsuitable for the species.

Pencilfish (Nannostomus sp.)

beckfords pencilfish

Pencilfish is a genus containing 19 currently recognized species. Some popular options are diptails, Beckford’s, and coral. Although it’s a large genus, the care is similar for all of them and you should aim for a shoal of at least six. 

Research into a specific species and their requirements is strongly recommended. 

pH: 5.0 – 7.0
dKH: 4 – 12
Temp: 74 – 82F (23 – 27C)

Size: 2″ (5 cm) species dependent
Temperament: Peaceful
Swimming: Mid to top

White Clouds (Tanichthys albonubes)

These fish are best kept in groups of eight or more, though 10 is better. There’s little information of just how far spread these fish are, but they’ve been observed slow-moving white and blackwater streams in and around China. 

pH: 6.0 – 7.0
dKH: 5 – 20
Temp: 60 – 72F (15 – 22C)

Size: 1.5 – 2″ (3 – 5 cm)
Temperament: Peaceful shoaling fish
Swimming: Mid to top

Toucan Tetras (Tucanoichthys tucano)

These guys are hard to find (but I know a few good spots if you want them!) And they’re completely worth hunting down these rare gems. They’re a peaceful shoaling fish that need to be kept in groups of six or more and the only known wild population exists within a 200-meter range in Brazil.

pH: 4.0 – 6.5
dKH: 1 – 8
Temp: 68 – 83F (20 – 28C)

Size: 1″ (2 cm)
Temperament: Peaceful shoaling fish
Swimming: Mid to top

Cherry Barb (Puntius titteya)

cherry barb

Cherry barbs are small and peaceful. They’re undemanding and pack a colorful punch when cared for correctly, making them an ideal community inhabitant. They’re shoalers, so they need to be kept in groups of 6 or more to bring out their best behavior.

pH: 6.0 – 8.0
dKH: 2 – 20
Temp: 68 – 81 F (20 – 26 C)

Size: 1.5 – 2″ (4 – 5 cm)
Temperament: Peaceful and active
Swimming: Top to midwater shoaling

Red-Tailed Rasbora (Rasbora borapetensis)

Not the easiest fish to find, and you’ll likely need to special order them, but they make great community tank inhabitants. They’re hardy, peaceful, colorful, and not easily spooked. You’ll want to get them in shoals of 8 – 10, though likely order more in case of casualties.

pH: 5.5 – 7.0
dKH: 2 – 12
Temp: 72 – 78 F (22 – 26 C)

Size: 2″ (5 cm)
Temperament: Peaceful and active
Swimming: Top to midwater shoaling

Ember Tetra (Hyphessobrycon amandae)

Ember Tetra

Ember tetras are bright, fun, tiny, shoaling fish that occur in South American black waters. They’re hardy, peaceful fish that are often described as active, bold, and playful. They also enjoy a planted tank, but be mindful that they do like to swim in open space, so be sure to include that in your layout. They enjoy their numbers a little higher than most shoaling species, 8 is recommended.

pH: 5.5 – 7
dKH: 1 – 10
Temp: 68 – 82 F (20 – 27 C)

Size: 3/4″ (2 cm)
Temperament: Peaceful and active
Swimming: Top to midwater shoaling

Rasbora sarawkensis (No common name)

Not the easiest fish to find, you’ll likely want to special order some, but they make great community tank inhabitants. They’re colorful, peaceful, and not easily spooked. They are a shoaling species, so you’ll want 8 – 10, but you’ll likely want to order more in the event of casualties on the trip to your house.

pH: 6.0 – 7.5
dKH: 2 – 12
Temp: 72 – 78 F (22 – 26 C)

Size: 2″ (5 cm)
Temperament: Peaceful and active
Swimming: Top to midwater shoaling

Chili Rasboras (Boraras brigittae)

chilli rasbora

Chilis are tiny. Absolutely minuscule compared to your average aquarium fish. They’re also shoaling fish that need to be kept in groups of at least 10 – but, again – they’re tiny! Even still, they pack a colorful punch once settled in and make a beautiful, active display for the right tank.

pH: 4.0 – 7.0
dKH: 1 – 10
Temp: 68 – 83F (20 – 28C)

Size: .5″ (1 cm)
Temperament: Peaceful shoaling fish
Swimming: Mid to top

Breeding Macrostomas

Breeding macs is a dream project for most serious fish breeders (somewhere between a breeding colony of zebra plecos and pygmy chain loaches.) Getting macrostomas to breed once they’ve paired isn’t hard, and getting macrostomas to pair isn’t too difficult either. The difficult part is getting the male to hold the eggs for full-term.

You’re going to want to get a group to allow a pair to form naturally. Once a pair has formed, they’ll usually live together without any squabbling unless they feel like they have no space. Of course, to get a pair you’ll need a male and a female. Males are much rarer and harder to come by than females because only an estimated 10 – 15% of the fry will be males.

When not stressed, the coloration is a dead giveaway.

male macrostoma
Male
female macrostoma
Female

When the fish are stressed (such as right after shipping) or young, look to the dorsal fin to spot the eyespot on a male (or not on a female.) Even severely stressed or younger males will have a slight black outline.

male betta macrostoma stressed
Male (stressed)
female betta macrostoma
Female (doesn’t look stressed)

The pair’s first spawn will likely be in the “pairing” tank, and you probably won’t see the spawn or the resulting fry. You may not even notice your male was holding eggs. If he gets stressed, he’ll swallow them. But once they’re pair (or look like they’re going to pair up) it’s probably safe to move them to a spawning tank.

Spawning

As with most betta species, the female usually initiates the spawning. If you’re familiar with betta spawning, you’ll see some familiar flaring, fin flashing, wiggling, and embracing here. If you’re not, the female will usually approach the male in a “wiggle.” If receptive, the male will usually respond to the female with his mouth open and fins out.

From there, they may flare a little, open their mouths at each other, and she might continue to wiggle at him (which looks like a suggestive body slap, if you’re familiar with cichlid aggression and spawning.) From there, they’ll usually orient themselves to wrap.

The male will wrap himself around the female and fertilize the eggs as they’re released. Both parents will work to pick up the eggs together and the female will spit the eggs she’s collected into the male’s mouth. Sometimes the male won’t take them, but she’ll hold onto them most of the time in these cases.

Egg & Fry Care

The male will hold the eggs in his mouth for anywhere from 14 – 35 days, although 14 being the average. Once they eggs have hatched and they’re free-swimming, he’ll spit out a cloud of fully-formed fry. Since they’re mouthbrooders, they have much smaller batches than other bubble nester betta species, usually, only 10 – 20 fry will emerge from 20 – 30 eggs.

The trickiest part is making sure macrostomas hold their eggs to full-term. Most males will swallow the eggs or spit them prematurely. In either case, the survival rate isn’t good (if survivable at all.) If your male has a track record of eating his eggs, you can always try stripping the eggs (also sometimes called “milking” with later stages of development) and artificially hatching them.

This person had success hatching artificially:

https://youtu.be/Ax0YLz1Li0E

Once the male spits out the fry, provided he does, they’ll be as large as 1/4″ and able to eat microworms, vinegar eels, and baby brine shrimp. Within three months they’ll be large enough to send to their future homes, though they’ll likely need some additional growth time before they’ll be ready to produce fry of their own.

Further Reading & Resources

IUCN – Brunei Beauty

IBC – Betta Species By Complex

6 Responses

  1. Thanks for the article, it’s the most in-depth and comprehensive macrostoma care article I could find! But I disagree with you, respectfully.
    You can keep macs in 10-gallons and many breeders do. I have a pair in a 10 and they’re happy and breed like crazy! You just need to make sure you have a well cycled filter to handle it. I’m sure a 20 would be better, but you CAN keep them in a 10. 40 gallons honestly seems like way too much space for me.

    1. Hey, Jordan!

      Thanks for the comment! I agree, and I’ve seen it done successfully. The reason I go towards the high end of gallons on any of my articles is because the people who know they can bend this rule know when, where, and how far to bend the rule. So if I suggest 10, there’s a chance someone might try to bend that down to 5 (eeek, what a mess!) Likely not someone experienced who recognizes an actual minimum, but still!
      But there are also a ton of new hobbyists that read the site. I’m not going to encourage everyone who reads the site to go under gallons – a few I might – but not the majority. The other thing I considered – specifically here for the 40 suggestion – is space for fry for a little while. There are a ton of studies that indicate fry grow up to be better parents when they were “raised” by their own for a little while. And I think with macs being such notorious swallowers, growing fry that will grow up to be better parents than their own is super important for future generations. And I’ve never heard of someone keeping macs just to keep them.

      Not saying a 10 is bad for breeding – by all means keep doing what’s been working! – just explaining my thought process for the minimum.

      1. Thanks for the explanation but I still respectfully disagree on 40. You would have enough space to raise the fry in a 20 with the parents for a little while. I can keep a small spawn with the parents on a 10 for a few days.

        1. Yeah, I get that. Do what works for you, I’m by no means judging or knocking your method! If it works and everyone’s happy enough to breed, I think that’s as good a method as any.

          In my experience, macs are more likely to swallow in smaller tanks. And I should’ve specified when I say “raising fry” with the parents, I’m talking about extended periods of two weeks onward, you just can’t do that kind of thing in a 20. Or if you can, there’s undue stress on everyone involved, in my opinion. The water change schedule alone gets nuts and – being a lazy fish keeper – I just don’t see a need for extra work for the same payoff if I can avoid it, to be honest.

          1. You got me there. I change my water twice a week in the 10. Smaller water changes daily if I have fry in there. I want to get it on an AWC but don’t have the place for it.

          2. Yeah, see, I’m just not about that water change life. Lol But AWC is the way to go! If more people had them, smaller tanks would totally be a suggestion I’d make. Good luck with your mac project!

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